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Originally Posted by Christopher
I remember "back in the day", all these script kiddies would come around bragging about how they tricked so-and-so into giving up their IP address -- as if it mattered.
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Tell you what: Take a read below, IF you doubt me.... ok?
Yes... I used some "nefarious means" @ times, admittedly (but, only in response to what had been done to myself, for years)...
PROOF (part of it, the very ending (leaving my opponents speechless with no reply & more))
See here (in case you're interested):
http://windowsitpro.com/articles/ind...1095&cpage=216
Long read, but amusing... imo, @ least - especially that last post, icing on the cake as to ANY statements I made below, ok? This went on, for YEARS (over @ arstechnica especially & I got sick of it, in being libelled, impersonated, & more... so, I took care of it, myself!)
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Originally Posted by Christopher
It's easy to find a general location, not so easy to find a specific person. I can't look at your IP that we have logged on this site and magically get your home address.
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I can't mention names (of folks that helped me, other than company names etc. in the URL above), but, I can however, clue you in (somewhat) & here goes:
Yes, point taken on THIS note, for "ordinary users"...
& yes, there is a SMALL 'hassle' w/ IP addy's @ times - they CAN be (for example) up to 100++ miles (or so) "off target" & mainly because your ISP/BSP does NOT have to be "next door to your home", but "relatively" far away...
STILL, it is not like saying you live in NYC, but are shown CHINA instead (lol), unless coming thru via PROXY servers (which I do mention above).
HOWEVER, in a University scenario? Diff. story, totally.
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Originally Posted by Christopher
And there are other things to consider. For example, in your scenario, what if the IP was routed to a university (i.e., multiple users sharing one public IP)? It is not completely out of the realm of possibility that two students of the same university share the same view.
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Put it, this way - when I contacted the people who controlled it from there, eventually, to verify? They told me EXACTLY who did what & when (after some "pressure" of legal action, etc. if need be, once the rest was noted to them from a reputable source (isp's/bsp's, hosting providers, & more, all in the above url))...
& with SOLID evidence, & the right folks backing you? No problem. I had to do a ton of legwork, per "various means", but in the end?? Worth it.
They then simply did the verifying what I had suspected, because the person I was after, alongside his pals, had DEFINITELY busted the law & kept harassing, impersonating, & libelling + threatening myself (my family too (not for a few days mind you, but site-to-site, for nearly a decade & across the internet - I finally just put a halt to it, is all)).
Funniest part is, what they tried to do to me? LOL, backfired, & instead, happened to them... hilarious, poetic ironic justice.
I.E.-> Their websites were removed in their entirety or in part on that one, & being caught in lies to the max was another (tons of that on the URL above as proof no less). Their harassing emails? STOPPED COLD, along w/ threats to my family no less!
(AND, on technical levels? LOL, the "great arstechnica" & their "expert in Exchange" (Jay Little)?? Wrong, & caught flat-footed on the topic @ hand, about Ramdisks & BSOD's (over @ NTCompatible.com, where he also pursued me to, & made a fool of himself on those accounts, immediately, & even another arstechnican (mod there named DosFreak) shot him down on those accounts as well, oddly enough!)
Far more too... he left, out of shame, after lying about stealing my sourcecode, to which I asked "show me the delphi code they were written in", & then his later TRYING to disassemble it, for an ASM dump!
(To which he got a RUDE awakening - trying to do that to wares I have done online, to their actual FILES on disk results in them shutting down immediately due to FileSize & CRC-32 checks, which also works vs. viral infestations too!)
Which turned up another HUGE lie on Jay Little's part.
Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little were the worst of the lot... the other fellow (student, who shall remain nameless, & was used as a dupe/stooge imo? I let be, on the agreement he was "out of it" for good... he has a future. The other two? Do not!)
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Originally Posted by Christopher
All in all, an IP address is pretty damn useless in the grand scheme of things.
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Ever used a port sniffer (a promiscuous mode one)? If not... then, LOL, no it's not...
Ever heard of a "man-in-the-middle"/mitm attack??
If so, it's NOT that "radically different" either, just a regular SOB to setup (If you've been programming around sockets @ all, not that tough, just time consuming)... plus, interpreting the datastream (mishmash & TONS OF IT, as long as it's not encrypted though? ha, & especially if they screwup in their router or NIC settings).
Anything's possible, if you're pissed off & determined enough. Those dolts made threats regarding my family, who had NOTHING to do with anything... that, to me & MOST folks? Is motivation enough, by far.
(Put it THIS way - it'd been easier, by far, to DOS them or write up a bogus machination like a virus/spyware (which I will NOT do, because it is bogus) & DDOS them... but then, I become my worst enemies (yours too in a way) in being like them)
However/Also - you have to "know the right folks" too... this is, catch-22, & how to approach them is all.
APK
P.S.=> Still, makes me angrier than a hornet, even thinking about it... I hope it never happens to you (I mentioned this to Cat-Tranz, "it never ends" in 'pm' in fact)... however, all-in-all: You guys ought to find the 3dTraceroute (full model only has the map portion I spoke of though, not freebie one) useful, in this capacity... apk